The episode is hosted by Ben Wittes, who has authored a number of books on the presidency and several on the Trump administration. He interviewed Glenn Kessler, author of a new book about Trump's lying and also head honcho at the Washington Post's "Fact Checker" column.
You can download the episode for free directly at the Lawfare Podcast website (link here) or at popular podcast platforms like Apple iTunes (link here) and Stitcher (link here).
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